Comments on: Modern Appliances: Calculated Failure & Planned Obsolescence https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/ Computer Help, Tips, How-to's, and News Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:03:59 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mindblower https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-145649 Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:03:59 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-145649 In reply to Tracy.

When we purchased our washer and dryer combo, we were asked about purchasing an additional 10 year warranty for pennies on the dollar which we did. Have you checked if this is available in your area, Mindblower!

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By: megaman https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-145620 Wed, 14 Aug 2024 15:51:10 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-145620 In reply to Tracy.

I’m on both sides. I’ve had faulty devices that needed replacement. Yet, I also venture into some hardware reddits where people abuse their hardware (overclockin, or modifying their devices) and if something breaks, they ask to find ways to get it replaced. The hard part is knowing if it was someone tinkering or it was default defective, bad apples ruin it for the bunch.

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By: Tracy https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-145563 Sat, 10 Aug 2024 07:44:58 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-145563 Check YouTube for a guy named Louis Rossmann. His is a very interesting channel that covers a lot of topics, but one close to his heart is the “right to repair” movement in the US. Not only are cheapo parts a weak link, but so is the fact that makers want to kneecap owners by refusing to offer schematics, manuals, and yes– using pieces to assemble which make it almost impossible to replace small bits.

And in AU, there is a way to get after warranty help if you push the ACCC. I’ve helped many people get their items repaired after the 12 months. Items included things such as appliances, where the expectation of something like a washing machine is obviously longer than 12mths. It generally goes to price, with higher cost items having a better chance at getting it fixed/replaced/money back.

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By: Clairvaux https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55881 Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:13:18 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55881 I have a perfectly good, big, bulky Brother laser printer, except it does not lift the paper off the tray anymore. I tried to repair it myself.

First problem was finding the official repair manual. Very difficult to trace, but I finally got it. Then you have to dismantle the thing. You’d think : turn a few screws, and voilĂ . Big mistake. It can be dismantled, and the manual purports to show how, but it’s devilishly difficult. It almost seems designed to discourage repair, as opposed to easing functionality or even fabrication. Buying the parts off the Internet was easy. Putting them in was difficult, but doable and done. Unfortunately, my printer still does not lift paper off the tray…

And the alternative ? Compared to present-day Brother models, my printer seems to be made out of cast iron. The equivalent I could buy today seems to be made out of cardboard, with a horrible type of bendy plastic which shouts : I’ll be broken tomorrow.

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By: Jim Hillier https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55538 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 18:43:44 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55538 In reply to clas.

Hi Clas – Things are a lot different here (in Australia). Just to get a repairer to the door here costs anything between $80 to $120, that’s before they even take a look at whatever’s broken.

Our washing machine broke recently, quotes from repairers over the phone amounted to around $200, including the first hour’s labor. By the time we included an approximate for parts, it all added up to more than half the price of a brand new machine.

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By: clas https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55523 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:36:24 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55523 jim, you hit home with this one!! hahha…. my wife and i are not cheap, but we know what we like and when we find an appliance or whatever that we like and works the way we want it, we want it to last. we have found that repairing it is the way to go. cases in point… slide in stove, very expensive to replace, nothing out there but china crap..our controller quit. i found a place online that repairs them…i took out old, sent it in, got a brand new one in a week…120 bucks. works like new again. little freezer died. had repairman out, put in new thingamagig, works like new…85 bucks. spent days looking for a good new one…all china junk, all bad reviews…fix the old one and we are happy again. washer died..maytag when they were great…repairman out…motor gone..he said his place had some. wife went, found exactly the same model as ours…perfect condition..200 bucks delivered and installed with new hoses…works perfect..we laugh everytime we use it. so new is not always better…sometimes fixing the old, american made one is the way to go. your article hit home for sure…

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By: Jim Hillier https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55506 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 00:42:51 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55506 In reply to Neville Turbit.

Good point Neville. Thanks for your input.

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By: Neville Turbit https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55505 Sat, 14 Nov 2015 22:45:30 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55505 Another thing that irritates me is that you have no chance of fixing them. Glue, hidden clips and odd screws stop you getting inside and fixing what should be a simple repair. Tracked a fault in a trailer plug on my Mazda to a plug on the blinker. Had to take it to a specialist to get the panel off so I could fix the plug.

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By: Bruce https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55498 Sat, 14 Nov 2015 18:12:47 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55498 The American Express Platinum Card, as well as some other premium cards, double the warranty. I’ve used that feature a couple of times and it’s paid off. For big ticket items Square Trade is also a good choice. They took care of an expensive coffee maker that failed and covered shipping as well.

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By: Mindblower https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55446 Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:33:29 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55446 I bet that the cost for return postage and handling of the $20 kettle would be more than a brand new kettle, Mindblower!

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By: Ralph C https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55431 Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:22:41 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55431 And I’ll bet the $20 kettle is still working! Many years ago I bought a boom box for my wife, and the CD player died 3 days after the warranty. Took it to their repair center and they would not do anything for mje, except sell je a new unit for what I paid for it. No deal says I. I have never and will never buy that brand again in my life. My wife loves their brand of kitchen apliances, but I refuse to buy them. I may lose that battle, but she will know it!

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By: Daniel https://davescomputertips.com/modern-appliances-calculated-failure-planned-obsolescence/#comment-55429 Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:05:54 +0000 http://Remember%20the%20old%20days%20when%20appliances%20and%20electronic%20devices%20actually%20lasted?#comment-55429 It is amazing on how well timed an appliance breakdown is timed to the expiration of the factory warranty and the extended warranty that consumers are enticed to buy “like me” is usually not worth anything.

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